Roofing Wall Plates / Top Plates

Setting out, squaring, levelling and fixing gable and hip roof wall plates

Getting the wall plates or top plates as they are sometimes called right is important because all the ceiling joists, roof rafters hips etc. will be fixed to them. In order for all the roof components to work, they must be square, parallel, level and fixed down properly.

Squaring and fixing the wall plates

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Cutting opposing plates the same length will help keep things square. Measure across for parallel then when fixing measure from corner to corner diagonally. When the measurement is equal the plates are square. Another way when the roof is too large for that or there are not four corners is to use the 3-4-5 method.

They should be fixed firmly to the brick or blockwork underneath. In the UK they're bedded on sand and cement to lose any discrepancies in the brickwork then fixed again with lateral restraint straps, though you might want to wait till you've set out the joists first so you don't put the straps in the way of the joists or rafters.

To fix the joists and rafters down they should be 'toe' or 'skew' nailed to the top plate like below.

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Set out the ceiling joists

The ceiling joists are installed before the rafters as they will stop the roof spreading and also give something for you to lay planks across to stand on when building the roof.

The picture below shows how the ceiling joists are laid out on the wall plates for a hipped roof.

Because there will be rafters on all four sides of the plates you can't run a ceiling joist right up against the wall (to the left of the three pictured below). If you did, it would be in the way of the rafters on that left hand wall. Instead, shorter ceiling joists have to be trimmed across and fixed to the first one. These give you something to fix the plasterboard to from underneath later on.
After the hip and jack rafters are installed more joists or noggins can be fixed in the corner to fix the plasterboard to.

Hipped roof ceiling joists wall plate layout

These joists are laid out at 600mm centers so I measured from the outside edge 600mm to the furthest side of the first joist, then 1200 to the next and so on at 600mm centers. The jack rafter will sit tight up against the further side of the joist from the corner, where the 'x' is on the drawing. Likewise for the trimmed joist, 600mm from the outside of the wall plate. The trimmed joist will measure 600mm minus the thickness of the joist (substitute 600 for 400, 450 or whatever centers you are working to).

If you have tall joists you may need to cut a 'splice' or seat cut on the end of the joist so it doesn't protrude above the rafters.

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The picture below shows how it will look once the hip and jack rafters are installed.

Hipped roof ceiling joists wall plate layout

Gable roof plate top layout

For a gable roof the ceiling joists are laid out slightly differently. The picture below shows the ceiling joist starts 50mm away from the brickwork gable wall. This is to let the common rafter fit in-between later. The second joist should still be 600mm to the center and so on so that the plasterboard can be fixed to it (substitute 600 for 400, 450 or whatever centers you are working to if different).

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When the rafters are installed the ridge goes past the brickwork and noggins are fitted to fix a common rafter outside the building that will carry the barge board and soffit, below.

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If you know exactly where it needs to go, it might be easier at this stage to trim out the joists to accommodate a loft trap for access into the roof space later on.

After the top wall plates and joists are installed you can start working out the rafter lengths.

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